I've had the girls do the basic rolls before across the floor using different hand-grip placements (including for el-grip).
I always wanted to film someone who could demonstrate stalder tick-tock rolls that start out small, gradually increasing the height of the roll from 3/4 handstand to 3/4 handstand; then finally completing it from handstand to handstand. Caroline's the only one I think who might be strong enough to use; but I never got around to trying it out with her (or others).
Part of the problem is, stalderwork has not been part of the regular diet of our girls.
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